Is Jesus God? Part 17: "Jesus had to learn - God naturally knows all"

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Hebrews 5:8 “Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered”

This tells us that Jesus had to ‘learn’ to be ‘obedient’. This implies that he wasn’t at some point in time prior, otherwise he wouldn’t have to learn to be. This also suggests that God is not knowing all if Jesus was God.

John 8:28 “So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me.”

We see two things here, 1- he was son of MAN, 2- he does nothing of his own will, and only says what God has taught him. Does God need another God to teach him? Is Jesus incapable of doing anything on his own if he is God?

Luke 2:40 “The Child continued to grow and become strong, increasing in wisdom; and the grace of God was upon Him.”

Jesus is not omniscient – lacking knowledge, and had to gain it over time. God is all knowing naturally.

Luke 2:52 “And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man.”

Jesus didn’t have all wisdom from the beginning - it grew.

Mark 13:32 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (See also Matthew 24:36 )

Jesus didn’t know something. God knows all.

Matthew 21:18-22 “Now in the morning, when He was returning to the city, He became hungry. Seeing a lone fig tree by the road, He came to it and found nothing on it except leaves only; and He said to it, “No longer shall there ever be any fruit from you.” And at once the fig tree withered. Seeing this, the disciples were amazed and asked, “How did the fig tree wither all at once?” And Jesus answered and said to them, “Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, ‘Be taken up and cast into the sea,’ it will happen. “And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive.”

If Jesus was God, and God dwelled in him as other verses state, then he would have known that this tree didn’t have fruit without ever seeing it. Is God lacking knowledge of all things?

Matthew 24:36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

God is having the attribute of omniscience, to know all, and this verse proves that Jesus did not possess this divine attribute, thus can’t be God. (See also Mark 13:32 )

Psalms 147:5 “Great is our Lord and mighty in power; his understanding has no limit.”

God has no limit to his knowledge and understand, but as you can see from other verses within this section, Jesus was limited in knowledge and understanding.

Revelations 1:1 “The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John”

Does God need to ‘give revelation’ to himself? This demonstrates that Jesus couldn’t be God, because God is all-knowing, and Jesus was not.

Qur’an 2:255 “Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and their preservation tires Him not. And He is the Most High, the Most Great.”

There is only ONE God – Allah. He is eternal, always existing, knows all things in the past, present, and future.

Qur’an 5:110 “[The Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, remember My favor upon you and upon your mother when I supported you with the Pure Spirit and you spoke to the people in the cradle and in maturity; and [remember] when I taught you writing and wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel; and when you designed from clay [what was] like the form of a bird with My permission, then you breathed into it, and it became a bird with My permission; and you healed the blind and the leper with My permission; and when you brought forth the dead with My permission; and when I restrained the Children of Israel from [killing] you when you came to them with clear proofs and those who disbelieved among them said, "This is not but obvious magic."

Allah tells here that miracles were given to Jesus, FROM God (Allah), same as the Bible taught (that they were from God, not Jesus himself.)

Qur’an 5:76 “Say, "Do you worship besides Allah that which holds for you no [power of] harm or benefit while it is Allah who is the Hearing, the Knowing?"

Allah is the only one that is all-hearing, and all-knowing.

Qur’an 5:116 “And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.”

On Judgment Day, Allah will have Jesus testify about what he taught mankind, and Jesus will tell them that he never told anyone to worship him or his mother. He admits that he does not know all, and that only Allah knows all.

Qur’an 6:100-103 “To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things. That is Allah, your Lord! there is no god but He, the Creator of all things: then worship ye Him: and He hath power to dispose of all affairs. No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision: He is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things.”

This verse tells us many things: 1- Allah does not have a son. 2- Allah knows all things and sees all things. 3- There is no deity but Allah. 4- Allah is the judge of all affairs. 5- No one can see God (in this Earthly life). 6- He is above comprehension, meaning that Allah is nothing like anything we can imagine.

Qur’an 27:9 “O Moses, indeed it is I - Allah, the Exalted in Might, the Wise."

Allah tells Moses, that He (God) is Allah. Allah tells his name so that he is not to be confused as any other.

Qur’an 42:11 “[He is] Creator of the heavens and the earth. He has made for you from yourselves, mates, and among the cattle, mates; He multiplies you thereby. There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing.”

Allah states that there is nothing like him, and that he is all-hearing and seeing. Man is not having these traits, and Jesus was a man.

Qur’an 57:3 “He is the First and the Last, the Ascendant and the Intimate, and He is, of all things, Knowing.”

Allah is stating that he is the first, last, and knows all things. Allah is eternal, always existing.

Continue to the next Section – Part 18: "Jesus could not do anything by himself"

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Recommended Reading:

Bible Corruption Series:

Part 1 – Intro to Bible Version Differences

Part 2 – 1 John 5:7, The Three That Bear Record in Heaven (Comma Johanneum)

Part 3 – John 7:53-8:11, Pericope of the Adulteress

Part 4 – Mark 16:9-20, Resurrection of Jesus

Part 5 – Conflicting Gospels on the Empty Tomb & Ascension of Jesus